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Post by |H|Fenrir on Apr 9, 2023 16:02:40 GMT -5
What do folks think about this. It takes me half a game to get arty and often with a couple of minutes to spare so I don't get to use it. Then I have to do it all over again. Very annoying.
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Post by |H|Fox on Apr 9, 2023 21:21:55 GMT -5
I personally don't like it but that's just me. Played one round of Rhine Final the day the change happened, noticed the points reset after round two started, and haven't played since.
That was....three months ago or so. Just didn't care for it. But if the majority likes it, I'd keep it in place for the server's sake. More players = good.
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Post by |Tony Soprano| on Apr 9, 2023 21:52:20 GMT -5
Don't like it at all, makes the maps last too long and keeps the tank campers in their tanks. The point whores are still hitting bases out of order.
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Post by |H|Sepsis on Apr 10, 2023 4:23:45 GMT -5
I don't like it either. As with Fen, it used to take me most of a round, or both,to get arty!! I tend to play one round then log off. It could also encourage players to ignore base order, just to get some points.
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Post by Shaft_Bender on Apr 10, 2023 6:35:20 GMT -5
Haven't played the game myself for a while, don't think I would like it either if I really got to experience that, lol...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 6:50:25 GMT -5
I know people don't like change. When the 88s were removed, because some people would sit on them all game shooting into the enemy spawn, people were upset but it improved the situation. Before the points reset we were losing players at a high rate. When the teams are unbalanced and the stronger team gets loaded up with arty and pound the crap out of the enemy's spawn people get frustrated and as the second round goes on it gets worse.
This change came around because there were people waiting and watching to see who joins which team and stack making the situation worse. It was getting really bad and everyday I saw people making comments and leaving the game. The server numbers were dropping. We were testing the reset to see the effects and the player numbers have been holding steady. If the teams are really out of balance by round two with the reset people have been staying because it is a fresh start.
I personally don't care about points. I play for fun and the chat with people. If the other admins decide to go back points continuing points through the game that's fine. But the I'm sure we'll end up losing players again. I'm fine on the losing team but I've left during the second round because of constant spawn arty. Spending more time dying and re-spawning gets boring. Many others would go to spec and wait for the next map or leave all together.
So, I get it, it's a little different game then it used to be but the population of the server has been much better. The non reset is fine when teams aren't way out of balance but some people can't lose and have to join the better team.
See what the others have to say.
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Post by Shaft_Bender on Apr 10, 2023 7:08:47 GMT -5
I know people don't like change. When the 88s were removed, because some people would sit on them all game shooting into the enemy spawn, people were upset but it improved the situation. Before the points reset we were losing players at a high rate. When the teams are unbalanced and the stronger team gets loaded up with arty and pound the crap out of the enemy's spawn people get frustrated and as the second round goes on it gets worse. This change came around because there were people waiting and watching to see who joins which team and stack making the situation worse. It was getting really bad and everyday I saw people making comments and leaving the game. The server numbers were dropping. We were testing the reset to see the effects and the player numbers have been holding steady. If the teams are really out of balance by round two with the reset people have been staying because it is a fresh start. I personally don't care about points. I play for fun and the chat with people. If the other admins decide to go back points continuing points through the game that's fine. But the I'm sure we'll end up losing players again. I'm fine on the losing team but I've left during the second round because of constant spawn arty. Spending more time dying and re-spawning gets boring. Many others would go to spec and wait for the next map or leave all together. So, I get it, it's a little different game then it used to be but the population of the server has been much better. The non reset is fine when teams aren't way out of balance but some people can't lose and have to join the better team. See what the others have to say. Hey man! Thanks for letting me know the reason, definitely makes sense. Don't care much about the points either, it's just fun to use arty and get the area cleared quick, the reason seems valid though so I think I'm okay with it as well.
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Post by Shaft_Bender on Apr 10, 2023 7:13:58 GMT -5
Lol and yeah, was one of the people who wanted the 88s to be removed. Although I myself was used to camp for 10 secs and get some lucky kills , but it felt boring there after and moreover someone once camped with it in Foy which became real frustrating that evening.
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Post by |Tony Soprano| on Apr 10, 2023 10:30:16 GMT -5
I know people don't like change. When the 88s were removed, because some people would sit on them all game shooting into the enemy spawn, people were upset but it improved the situation. Before the points reset we were losing players at a high rate. When the teams are unbalanced and the stronger team gets loaded up with arty and pound the crap out of the enemy's spawn people get frustrated and as the second round goes on it gets worse. This change came around because there were people waiting and watching to see who joins which team and stack making the situation worse. It was getting really bad and everyday I saw people making comments and leaving the game. The server numbers were dropping. We were testing the reset to see the effects and the player numbers have been holding steady. If the teams are really out of balance by round two with the reset people have been staying because it is a fresh start. I personally don't care about points. I play for fun and the chat with people. If the other admins decide to go back points continuing points through the game that's fine. But the I'm sure we'll end up losing players again. I'm fine on the losing team but I've left during the second round because of constant spawn arty. Spending more time dying and re-spawning gets boring. Many others would go to spec and wait for the next map or leave all together. So, I get it, it's a little different game then it used to be but the population of the server has been much better. The non reset is fine when teams aren't way out of balance but some people can't lose and have to join the better team. See what the others have to say. If it makes people stay then all good with me 👍
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Post by |H|Sepsis on Apr 10, 2023 13:37:28 GMT -5
Fair point Rev, now that the rationale's been explained. Thanks
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Post by Cocorendan on Apr 11, 2023 3:11:01 GMT -5
I actually like points being reset at round 2. Though I don't understand why team points aren't reset too. Artillery at round 2 has always been annoying to a lot of players who couldn't even take a step out of the spawn if the opposite team had taken enough points in the previous round. It's way funnier now, we can start a new round and have a fair amount of fun on both sides of the map.
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Post by moonshine on Apr 11, 2023 9:47:55 GMT -5
The only other way I’ve seen these problems addressed is to have only 1 round per map. People are completely divided on that concept too. I think the points reset makes maps last longer, which again, can be good or bad depending if you like the map. People will adapt given enough time as we all love this game and are trying to keep it alive.
Thanks for the explanation Rev.
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Post by Shaft_Bender on Apr 11, 2023 12:07:55 GMT -5
The only other way I’ve seen these problems addressed is to have only 1 round per map. People are completely divided on that concept too. I think the points reset makes maps last longer, which again, can be good or bad depending if you like the map. People will adapt given enough time as we all love this game and are trying to keep it alive. Thanks for the explanation Rev. Oh yeah agreed, point reset sure can extend the duration of the 2nd round compared to before. For some or half of the people it might be a draw back though since 2nd round is generally more fast paced. Artys everywhere, right? Lol.
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Post by Shaft_Bender on Apr 11, 2023 12:09:36 GMT -5
Someone might wanna have to go for a poll I guess. Dunno man.
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Post by /-/NOX!UZ on Apr 11, 2023 17:57:13 GMT -5
Not a fan of point reset.
Id be more a fan of shuffling / scrambling teams every round, i forget what the setting was called.
That way if im on a team with that Revjim guy i wont possibly have to suffer a second round on the same team as that noob.
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