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Post by Cocorendan on Apr 20, 2023 9:39:26 GMT -5
If the so called leader didnt like the way things was being done he could have sent a text email or pm saying hey Im not happy with the ways are being done around here and may have to make some changes, But thats not the case at all.. You guys jump on the server and just took over. I agree with you. However, it was not only about the leader's will. CB was told again and again and AGAIN to talk with and hear out what players had to say. Many can witness their calls were left ignored, their voices disrespected and defamed, my own self including. Even some admins witnessed this, tried to help, but were ignored as well. So hey, what could they do besides keep on trying or just give up?.. Lipton and Catfish Billy did a great job running this place when nobody else wanted to. That, I agree on too. Despite everything, I'm grateful to them for keeping the server alive. Co Co you was on the band list for good reason when you was a admin here you would start conflicts with players just to piss them off. You had a lot and i mean a lot of questionable great shots in the game. players complained about it all the time they would quit playing because of it. This, I can't agree with you.. and you guys can't pretend to know what I have in mind or what my intentions are.. you don't know me and you didn't give me the chance to show who I am. I never intended to piss anyone off, I'm someone discreet. I do not like being at the center of the attention, but you guys PUT me there. Here it comes, "why" I was on the banlist.. So, "why" was my "case" treated so unfairly? "Why", was I never warned or told this before? "Why", are there no proofs of me cheating? "Why", did we have to come to this for me to finally get some answers, or be unbanned? Eh, "why", was I banned "permanently" for a whole year, with it being the only ban ever..? But most of all, "WHY", do these questions apply not only to me, but also to a lot of a players who used to be around? And who definitely played fair and square. but just know you have lost atleast four good clean loyal to the server players. Hope the trade was worth it. Though it is a hurtful one for everyone, me including, I think it is a trade worth it, BUT it should have been different. I, also others, tried many different things.. What happened was one of the many LAST thing I wanted to happen. Enough TIME, PATIENCE and CHANCES, were given for you to reconsider what you've been doing is right. I don't want anyone to leave or to be put aside. We lost indeed 4 players and believe me or not, I like them. I like you, I like RevJim, I like CB, I like Lipton, I like LD. I like EVERYONE. But, we win back around 20 players who were banned and are known to be playing fair. Maybe you can't agree to that, ok, where are your proofs? And even if some of them were banned for misbehaviors, I do not believe they are to be banned PERMANENTLY and ignored. We all make mistakes. You have, I have. However I do learn from my mistakes, do you as well?.. Again, you do not know the way I think.. Whatever happened, whatever you think about me, I'll be open for conversation when your heads are cooled down. You'll always be welcome to play around as you wish. Hoping to see you back as soon as possible, or maybe we could get to scrim against each other. In any way, be able to be around each other again.
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Post by fric on Apr 20, 2023 18:00:49 GMT -5
Let me just put this out there. Its not that you guys decided to take over management but how thingS were handled, If the so called leader didnt like the way things was being done he could have sent a text email or pm saying hey Im not happy with the ways are being done around here and may have to make some changes, But thats not the case at all.. You guys jump on the server and just took over. Lipton and Catfish Billy did a great job running this place when nobody else wanted to. Co Co you was on the band list for good reason when you was a admin here you would start conflicts with players just to piss them off. You had a lot and i mean a lot of questionable great shots in the game. players complained about it all the time they would quit playing because of it. so you guys come in unbann whoever you want and play like you want, but just know you have lost atleast four good clean loyal to the server players. Hope the trade was worth it. only time will tell. Later TRAMPS!! DW It’s best to take a step back and look at the big picture. You can bash coco all you want, but like he said, we are all human and we all make mistakes. As for your “lost 4 good clean loyal players” What is your criteria? I can tell you about sone very, very, dishonorable and downright malicious things that have been done by these 4 “loyal players” under the bloodlust of admin powers. Why is it okay for them? Because they are your friends? To be frank, none of you have any business determined who hacks and who doesn’t. One of your great and “loyal” leaders would “accidentally” ban his own “loyal friend.” His reason? Well it appears he didn’t know it was his friend because he was under a secret name and new guid. He believed he banned a hacker. He then later says he was mistaken because he didn’t know he accidentally banned an “friend” admin . Determining a hacker is not about friends and feelings. It’s black and white. Hack or no hack. The sad part is that this admin that did the was responsible for a lot of bans of “hackers” because they “trusted his word”.
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Post by Klutz on Apr 20, 2023 19:55:49 GMT -5
Oh wow. Don’t really play anymore but welcome back.
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Post by |H|Fox on Apr 21, 2023 1:34:01 GMT -5
I'm not really dropping my tags, but the desire to play UO is more/less gone at this point just because of age and whatnot. I have a good number of you on steam, and a lot of phone numbers for texting purposes. Personally, I don't agree 100% with how this all went down, but at the same time I'm sure those that took back over didn't 100% agree with how things had been running for the last few years. Both sides probably could have handled this entire ordeal a little more professionally and respectfully...which is ironic coming from me. I'm well aware of my own faults and shortcomings. This game brings out the best and worst in some of us. Good memories and bad came forth as a result.
The fact that a game this old (20 years next year, right?) still has a few active servers is kinda insane. I'll not be returning to UO, much less any of its servers, but I wanted to express my appreciation nonetheless. Historians....Texas Militia...both clans introduced me to a lot of good people over the years. Going from xfire, to mumble, to vent, to teamspeak...all the scrimmages and matches and laughs...they're good memories and I'm glad to have them. There was many a night, upwards of a decade ago, that Loveless would have me in xfire voice chat (or some chat, hell, I can't remember now)....and the goof would just ramble on and on and on all night long about all the ideas he had for the main server and the Historians EXTREME one he was so fond of. AGain....good memories that I'm glad to have.
LD50, Billy, DW, Lipton, Rev, Fenrir, so on and so forth...thanks for all the fun. I apologize to you all, everyone who might read this, for being a shitty admin at points. I'm aware of it. I wasn't the worst, but definitely wasn't the best. Its funny how giving someone a little bit of power can go a lot further than you'd ever expect it to. Either way, to Coco and Friction, good luck on running things. I wish you all the best. To those who have me on steam and whatnot, feel free to drop a message any time. Gotta get some of you old farts into some newer games. Y'know, games released within the past DECADE, hah.
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Post by Agent Washington on Apr 21, 2023 12:28:45 GMT -5
Just Noticed the Heavy Tanks did not spawn on Kursk and someone was saying that one of the admins disabled it if so what is the reason sure they are powerful and sometimes annoying but you should keep them in its taking a big element away especially for Base Assault also never really used the fourms but now i am its me Keisuke Washington should've been using it years ago
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Post by Cocorendan on Apr 21, 2023 13:31:26 GMT -5
Hey, welcome!
Yeah, they were removed temporarily by Loveless, I think he is going to do something to make them a bit less powerful, and I think it is also to prevent players from camping up hills (on Kursk indeed). I am for leaving them ON, since they are very squeashy despite how powerful they are.
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Post by pizzapete on Apr 21, 2023 18:03:34 GMT -5
Hey there,
I said this earlier in-game but I also don't want the heavy tanks completely gone. There are a couple spots where, given to the right person, can cause some serious 20 min. spawn camping. I think a single spawn per game might help! Something to consider.
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Post by fric on Apr 22, 2023 1:59:28 GMT -5
Heavy tanks are just too overpowered. They make the losing team just get destroyed and the winning team just win even harder. Less chances of exciting comebacks from the losing team.
What I may do is leave it up to the admins discretion if they want to go ahead and turn them on for a map once in a while. That may add an element of excitement as well.
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Post by Shaft_Bender on Apr 22, 2023 6:00:26 GMT -5
Hey there, I said this earlier in-game but I also don't want the heavy tanks completely gone. There are a couple spots where, given to the right person, can cause some serious 20 min. spawn camping. I think a single spawn per game might help! Something to consider. Heya all and Pizzapete! I guess enabling single spawn per game might make the match quite un-enjoyable. I mean, this is one of the reasons most of us play these types of CoDs and Battlefields rather than the stressful(atleast imo) CoD Warzone or other Battle Royales, right? :) I mean, I don't mean any disrespect but I think there's a high chance most of the players might not like single spawn per game, and yes, I do agree camping is annoying and it sure is an issue :P Have a good day/evening!
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Post by Cocorendan on Apr 22, 2023 20:52:52 GMT -5
Hey, heavy tanks were put back just as they were before.
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Post by LoveLess on Apr 23, 2023 0:10:17 GMT -5
Hey everyone. I do apologize to those affected by this change. To me this is just a game for now and nothing else and didn't see the seriousness of how some players approach this game and that was my mistake. I will be more involved and reply to more PM's. Friction and coco will be helping me out and they have my trust that they will make sure Historians is a place to have as much fun as possible with the least amount of rules as possible we live in a world filled with rules and laws and I want H to feel like home. No admin not even myself should feel like we need to be praised or always feel we need to be heard just because we are running the server. The admins in historians there is one rule that comes first and that is "HUMBLE" and I will talk to them about it as well so their reply to any post or request will be as polite as possible without making the other person/player feel less important than the admins. This includes coco and friction if at any point i feel like any admin starts abusing its power by talking low to any player just because they can this will be addressed by me. I will addressed the tanks next weekend when i go through my old hard drives and use the same settings i had when the server was at its peak of 37.8 average players around the clock. As for the previous admins i owe them so much i can't even began to expressed my gratitude for them taking their time to keep this server alive and my sincere apologies to them all. Donations or not I have made the payments for the server for the last 16 years and I never thought this server would stay alive this long. that's over 11,000 Dollars that kept coming out of my account and i do remember for a few years donations kept coming in that i didn't had to worry about it one bit and that was good. Fox Thank you for your reply that was a very nice post and yes I do remember TxM alot my brother konig and I used to play there so very often we lost so much sleep thanks to your server but it was all worth it. I wish this game could get another push for i had so much fun playing in many servers. Thank you everyone for the time you invest playing in H server or taking care of it. I will be more with you guys than i have in the last 10 years which wasn't much.
LoveLess
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Post by Shaft_Bender on Apr 23, 2023 1:29:06 GMT -5
Hey everyone. I do apologize to those affected by this change. To me this is just a game for now and nothing else and didn't see the seriousness of how some players approach this game and that was my mistake. I will be more involved and reply to more PM's. Friction and coco will be helping me out and they have my trust that they will make sure Historians is a place to have as much fun as possible with the least amount of rules as possible we live in a world filled with rules and laws and I want H to feel like home. No admin not even myself should feel like we need to be praised or always feel we need to be heard just because we are running the server. The admins in historians there is one rule that comes first and that is "HUMBLE" and I will talk to them about it as well so their reply to any post or request will be as polite as possible without making the other person/player feel less important than the admins. This includes coco and friction if at any point i feel like any admin starts abusing its power by talking low to any player just because they can this will be addressed by me. I will addressed the tanks next weekend when i go through my old hard drives and use the same settings i had when the server was at its peak of 37.8 average players around the clock. As for the previous admins i owe them so much i can't even began to expressed my gratitude for them taking their time to keep this server alive and my sincere apologies to them all. Donations or not I have made the payments for the server for the last 16 years and I never thought this server would stay alive this long. that's over 11,000 Dollars that kept coming out of my account and i do remember for a few years donations kept coming in that i didn't had to worry about it one bit and that was good. Fox Thank you for your reply that was a very nice post and yes I do remember TxM alot my brother konig and I used to play there so very often we lost so much sleep thanks to your server but it was all worth it. I wish this game could get another push for i had so much fun playing in many servers. Thank you everyone for the time you invest playing in H server or taking care of it. I will be more with you guys than i have in the last 10 years which wasn't much. LoveLess Hey mate! Thanks for making this one hell of a beautiful server and appreciate your and other admins' work and dedication towards it! Cheers! Would love to be on the battlefield with you one day :P
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Post by Stanley on Apr 23, 2023 9:55:15 GMT -5
I am a long time player here. I am not close with anyone either offline, or on social media. Me and Catfish do not always get along, not at all, but regardless of this he has my respect because of the long hours he put in, keeping the show on the road. This being said, the one time I appealed to Friction, and after having presented a video of an offense committed by another player-to me-Friction-banned me for several days. This other player, wouldn't permit me use of the heavy and was throwing himself under my tank, again and again. The video reflected this.
I followed the rules, presented a video of the offense-and got temp banned for my trouble.
A few months later, just before Friction left, we're playing Foy. I was inside the building, just past G1, in the room beside the window out of sight. I was not next to any exterior wall. In what has to be the most obvious display of WALLING, ever, Friction comes along following me inside the building, jumps through the window and nails me. I didn't say a word, because Friction was running the place.
As far as the heavy tanks are concerned, the tanks have already been weakened as far as reason dictates. You can kill a tank with a pistol. This is a WW2 GAME, tanks were used in WW2, and they should be used here. That's CODUO. If this game had a submarine, I would use that, too. Without tanks, the game devolves in a score padding sniper shoot-this is not BA.
Friction, is not qualified to lead this server. He is not qualified by his poor judgment and lack of ethics. Catfish Billy is an excellent player, I have spec'd him many times-AND CATFISH DON"T HACK!
I like to be fair, and I want to thank all those concerned with keeping this jalopy of a game running. But offending people who have dedicated a lot of their time to it, and removing them, unceremoniously, is not the way to go. This sort of behavior has driven the nails in the coffin of many servers and clans out there-look at MOB.
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Post by fric on Apr 23, 2023 11:13:32 GMT -5
I am a long time player here. I am not close with anyone either offline, or on social media. Me and Catfish do not always get along, not at all, but regardless of this he has my respect because of the long hours he put in, keeping the show on the road. This being said, the one time I appealed to Friction, and after having presented a video of an offense committed by another player-to me-Friction-banned me for several days. This other player, wouldn't permit me use of the heavy and was throwing himself under my tank, again and again. The video reflected this. I followed the rules, presented a video of the offense-and got temp banned for my trouble. A few months later, just before Friction left, we're playing Foy. I was inside the building, just past G1, in the room beside the window out of sight. I was not next to any exterior wall. In what has to be the most obvious display of WALLING, ever, Friction comes along following me inside the building, jumps through the window and nails me. I didn't say a word, because Friction was running the place. As far as the heavy tanks are concerned, the tanks have already been weakened as far as reason dictates. You can kill a tank with a pistol. This is a WW2 GAME, tanks were used in WW2, and they should be used here. That's CODUO. If this game had a submarine, I would use that, too. Without tanks, the game devolves in a score padding sniper shoot-this is not BA. Friction, is not qualified to lead this server. He is not qualified by his poor judgment and lack of ethics. Catfish Billy is an excellent player, I have spec'd him many times-AND CATFISH DON"T HACK! I like to be fair, and I want to thank all those concerned with keeping this jalopy of a game running. But offending people who have dedicated a lot of their time to it, and removing them, unceremoniously, is not the way to go. This sort of behavior has driven the nails in the coffin of many servers and clans out there-look at MOB. Hello thanks for being faithful to H, maybe even better than me! We will continue to improve. Catfish is a great leader and we hope to have him continue to be part of our great community. Best, Fric
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Post by |H|MayheM on Apr 23, 2023 13:37:28 GMT -5
Whoa, I didn't think the forum was still active. And what a time to drop by lol.
I jump on the server now and again to see who's still around (mostly just to chat) but don't recognize any names.
Loveless & Fric, glad to see you guys are still here. Miss ya both.
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