Post by Coco on May 1, 2022 6:49:10 GMT -5
historiansforum.proboards.com/thread/4222/why-coco-ban
LD, if you want to talk about "server disruption", you may also want to tell about how some players were raging by calling me a cheater. You may also want to tell the reason why you kicked me in the first place.
I asked nicely: "what was that kick for?"
Your answer: "for being you"
*facepalm*
Anyway, this is how you handled raging players:
1./ [BLANK]
// (Weren't hackusations against the rules?) //
And this is how you handled an innocent player who didn't even say a thing before the kick:
1./ Not check the player (that's okay until now, you want to play)
2./ Kick < (wait, is it already going wrong?)
3./ Disrespect with invalid reason given ("being you", really? What does that even mean? [It's definitely going wrong])
4./ Kick again (after pointing out your abuse [Oops.])
5./ KicKicKicKicKicKicKicKicK (you probably lost count too [yes I did])
6./ Insults (thanks, I don't want to be fucked [but that's cute you wish me that])
7./ Post what just happened somewhere private probably putting facts at your convenience (I hope you didn't lie but I assume, since now it turned to permban)
8./ Tempban
// (Isn't admin abusing his powers against the rules? Hm.) //
This is what I did:
Oh yeah I did insult too, but only after you shamelessly kicked and disrespected me. However insults were very soft and only meant for provocating an admin abusing his powers.
Sorry friend, I can't and won't stand down and "stfu" facing abuse and injustice.
One thing some people may remember about me is that I consider calling someone a cheater as an insult, which I never did myself without solid proofs to show.
// (Who made a mistake in the first place?....... 2 hints! Not me!, and look for this " < ") //
Possible kick reasons:
"Cheat"? - Was it the reason behind the kick? If so, why a kick? Why not a ban? Wouldn't it be logic to directly ban someone who used to be admin and perfectly knows what happens to cheaters? I guess that's not the reason for the kick.
"Insult"? - Wait, was remaining silent the whole time, before the kick, compatible with insult being a reason? I guess not.
"No reason"? - That's the one!
Anyway you've already said the reason in Lazy_Girl's topic when she asked why I got banned, and you confirmed you had no reason to kick me in the first place. So it can't be any other reason than "No reason".
I was silent, didn't speak to anyone, I was respecting the server's rules, how could it be.. "server disruption"?
LD50, you failed in handling the situation but I forgive you, it's really okay. We all make mistakes, I have and you have. But I don't want you to be too late realizing that.
My only mistake there which I recognize was to release pressure on you but in my defence you started out of nowhere. You didn't protect me when it's your duty.
One way you could have handled that is to ask me politely to leave, yes I do know I can be outraging because of my game skills but I did nothing wrong and I would totally have stopped playing considering how many were complaining.
Now I'm talking to anyone reading this and may recognize themself in some of those statements:
I came back playing on cod around a month ago. While I wasn't active someone banned my forum account (no one even knows why [or won't publicly say?!]), reason why I made a new account and wasn't able to report misbehaviors towards me. Even if I probably wouldn't have done so.
I expected to be back to friends, players I have known for a few years. The only thing I got were those same people taunting me, making allusions to the way I play, insulting me, trashtalking me. I ignored all your hurtful comments and took it all on myself, "that's okay, they don't think it", I kept telling myself.
If you want to ban me, do it for a true reason.
Cheating? Is there any proof in all those years I played? No, and you know that because I'm clean.
Insulting? Well, isn't it okay to release pressure only once? Pressure being stocked up again and again because of some of you relentlessly pushing, harassing, insulting me again and again?
You, to whom I used to speak about very personal stuff.
You, for whom I fought to get you back in community.
You, who used to warmly greet me.
You, who openly lies about my behavior on the server.
You, who were my trusted friends.
You, who never liked me because.... well, because.. you don't know me (?).
Now I want answers. Not apologies. [Edit from a few weeks later: I don't need them anymore]
What happened while I was inactive?
Did someone talk bullshit in my back?
Did you suddenly think I'm cheating because I'm not playing anymore?
Did you realize the Earth isn't plate?
Is the cake a lie?
Were you abducted by aliens?
Alright, enough.
In no way I want to be any trouble to anyone. I like everyone around, even if you hate me. That's just who I am. I don't mind being insulted but understand that it still hurts coming from people I've known for a long time. Trust is one of the biggest values in my eyes.
By the way, I'm not making this thread for anyone to be punished. [Edit a few weeks later: no one will be punished anyway, even "leaders" do the same *facepalm*]
I just want to say what happened. The way I say those things may sound rough but I really don't mean to be. I'm only being rational.
If you read this thread and don't understand me, that means you probably already have something against me, so please, do make the effort of trying to be objective and rational.
[Edit 2: this letter is in my phone notepad for a few weeks now, I've been waiting for answers and I got almost all answers to my questions. I guess I only had suspicions so far about some specific ones but they're confirmed now.
Also, I can see I'm not the only innocent banned on H.
Why did you even ban zookie, or =R= Skullman???
Regular long time players around on the server, playing clean, why are they banned on forums too, and they ignore the reason why too?
Who else did you ban for no reason, but they didn't post anywhere?
Get yourself together, you're being ridiculous and you're killing the community..]
[Edit 3: found out about other innocents: KillerJohn, pizzapete - actually they're the only names I can remember right now but there are more.
Where are your proofs? Nowhere, you just don't like getting killed on a game, then make up a reason for the public eye.]
I'll make sure this thread doesn't magically disappear by also sending it in private to everyone.
LD, if you want to talk about "server disruption", you may also want to tell about how some players were raging by calling me a cheater. You may also want to tell the reason why you kicked me in the first place.
I asked nicely: "what was that kick for?"
Your answer: "for being you"
*facepalm*
Anyway, this is how you handled raging players:
1./ [BLANK]
// (Weren't hackusations against the rules?) //
And this is how you handled an innocent player who didn't even say a thing before the kick:
1./ Not check the player (that's okay until now, you want to play)
2./ Kick < (wait, is it already going wrong?)
3./ Disrespect with invalid reason given ("being you", really? What does that even mean? [It's definitely going wrong])
4./ Kick again (after pointing out your abuse [Oops.])
5./ KicKicKicKicKicKicKicKicK (you probably lost count too [yes I did])
6./ Insults (thanks, I don't want to be fucked [but that's cute you wish me that])
7./ Post what just happened somewhere private probably putting facts at your convenience (I hope you didn't lie but I assume, since now it turned to permban)
8./ Tempban
// (Isn't admin abusing his powers against the rules? Hm.) //
This is what I did:
Oh yeah I did insult too, but only after you shamelessly kicked and disrespected me. However insults were very soft and only meant for provocating an admin abusing his powers.
Sorry friend, I can't and won't stand down and "stfu" facing abuse and injustice.
One thing some people may remember about me is that I consider calling someone a cheater as an insult, which I never did myself without solid proofs to show.
// (Who made a mistake in the first place?....... 2 hints! Not me!, and look for this " < ") //
Possible kick reasons:
"Cheat"? - Was it the reason behind the kick? If so, why a kick? Why not a ban? Wouldn't it be logic to directly ban someone who used to be admin and perfectly knows what happens to cheaters? I guess that's not the reason for the kick.
"Insult"? - Wait, was remaining silent the whole time, before the kick, compatible with insult being a reason? I guess not.
"No reason"? - That's the one!
Anyway you've already said the reason in Lazy_Girl's topic when she asked why I got banned, and you confirmed you had no reason to kick me in the first place. So it can't be any other reason than "No reason".
I was silent, didn't speak to anyone, I was respecting the server's rules, how could it be.. "server disruption"?
LD50, you failed in handling the situation but I forgive you, it's really okay. We all make mistakes, I have and you have. But I don't want you to be too late realizing that.
My only mistake there which I recognize was to release pressure on you but in my defence you started out of nowhere. You didn't protect me when it's your duty.
One way you could have handled that is to ask me politely to leave, yes I do know I can be outraging because of my game skills but I did nothing wrong and I would totally have stopped playing considering how many were complaining.
Now I'm talking to anyone reading this and may recognize themself in some of those statements:
I came back playing on cod around a month ago. While I wasn't active someone banned my forum account (no one even knows why [or won't publicly say?!]), reason why I made a new account and wasn't able to report misbehaviors towards me. Even if I probably wouldn't have done so.
I expected to be back to friends, players I have known for a few years. The only thing I got were those same people taunting me, making allusions to the way I play, insulting me, trashtalking me. I ignored all your hurtful comments and took it all on myself, "that's okay, they don't think it", I kept telling myself.
If you want to ban me, do it for a true reason.
Cheating? Is there any proof in all those years I played? No, and you know that because I'm clean.
Insulting? Well, isn't it okay to release pressure only once? Pressure being stocked up again and again because of some of you relentlessly pushing, harassing, insulting me again and again?
You, to whom I used to speak about very personal stuff.
You, for whom I fought to get you back in community.
You, who used to warmly greet me.
You, who openly lies about my behavior on the server.
You, who were my trusted friends.
You, who never liked me because.... well, because.. you don't know me (?).
Now I want answers. Not apologies. [Edit from a few weeks later: I don't need them anymore]
What happened while I was inactive?
Did someone talk bullshit in my back?
Did you suddenly think I'm cheating because I'm not playing anymore?
Did you realize the Earth isn't plate?
Is the cake a lie?
Were you abducted by aliens?
Alright, enough.
In no way I want to be any trouble to anyone. I like everyone around, even if you hate me. That's just who I am. I don't mind being insulted but understand that it still hurts coming from people I've known for a long time. Trust is one of the biggest values in my eyes.
By the way, I'm not making this thread for anyone to be punished. [Edit a few weeks later: no one will be punished anyway, even "leaders" do the same *facepalm*]
I just want to say what happened. The way I say those things may sound rough but I really don't mean to be. I'm only being rational.
If you read this thread and don't understand me, that means you probably already have something against me, so please, do make the effort of trying to be objective and rational.
[Edit 2: this letter is in my phone notepad for a few weeks now, I've been waiting for answers and I got almost all answers to my questions. I guess I only had suspicions so far about some specific ones but they're confirmed now.
Also, I can see I'm not the only innocent banned on H.
Why did you even ban zookie, or =R= Skullman???
Regular long time players around on the server, playing clean, why are they banned on forums too, and they ignore the reason why too?
Who else did you ban for no reason, but they didn't post anywhere?
Get yourself together, you're being ridiculous and you're killing the community..]
[Edit 3: found out about other innocents: KillerJohn, pizzapete - actually they're the only names I can remember right now but there are more.
Where are your proofs? Nowhere, you just don't like getting killed on a game, then make up a reason for the public eye.]
I'll make sure this thread doesn't magically disappear by also sending it in private to everyone.