Make ignoring base order kickable

[woymaddog]

Hey guys,

Sometimes it really frustrates me that people do not respect the base order on certain maps. For example on Foy, Kursk, Ponyri or Italy. It simply ruines other peoples gameplay, noone wants to play 60 min TDM. It are always the same people that hit A2 first on Foy.

On some maps it's still possible to win, after hitting the wrong bunkers first, but for example on Foy it's really really hard. So thats why I started this poll. Please vote first and let me know what you think. IMO: If we can make this kickable it will make the game more fun for all players and there will be less noobs on the server

- Maddog

[fric]

This is proper way to complain, not say fric is ruining server or some bull shit like this. Thank you mad dog.

[/-/Tiamat]

i like tdm

[Spud]

Base order is important, yes. But a good team that plays as a team can overcome any base order. I've seen it done many times. Besides...it's a game, remember?

[{[SACK]}Donefore™]

Unless the person is just driving around the game not helping the Team that player should be Kicked
other then that
You cant tell players how to PLAY!

PS

Its a Game

You forgot a Vote

I don't vote on this!

[|H|Chrysalis]

I understand the frustration, but kicking players for not following base order is basically same as punishing people for being new to the game mode or not understanding english. Or for being stupid. And I don't think any of those are things that are worth a kick and it might drive away some players, which is bad since UO doesn't have too many players left.

[/-/Gary Gygax.]

[woymaddog]

Yes, ofcourse its just a game and you can't tell people how to play...

However this game is more then 12 years old now and I can't imagine there are lots of new players on this game. I just don't get it why some people keep hitting the wrong bunkers and not understanding it makes it harder to play. Even when you explain it in team chat. They are like bots

[/-/NOX!UZ]

Sounds good on Paper, would be a total disaster in practice.

Number One: Half the people would on the server would have to be kicked. Server would be dead within a week.

Number Two: No offense, but as an admin, I would not stop what im doing to go to spec to watch someone just to see if they were 'not following base order'.

Friction has explained before that the server has maintained its players and reputation as the best server by being a place where the rules are not overbearing. Some other places will kick for using a bazooka against infantry, have scripts that smite people automatically for 'camping', kick people for sitting on the 88's all round, etc. Its the lack of a broad set of rules that try to enforce a way a minority of people think people should play that keeps the majority coming here, to play a game , and have fun.

[fric]

Thank you all for your comments. The vast majority of votes have swung towards leaving it be the way it is, something that surprises me. Thank you maddog for you have given me another fantastic idea!

What noxius said is true; however, we can take a somewhat different aproach. The other day, there was a player who does not speak english hitting the 2 base on foy. The typical response I have seen to this is the same as always. "****** noob, stop hitting 2." "admin kick" ect... All it took for me to remedy the situation was to call his attention, explain to him in Spanish of the implications of opening the american base 2 is. Naturally, after he learned this, he did not attack the 2. I did not have to kick, nor smite, nor ban.

Ladies and gentleman, we are in a dying game. At this time, we should help people how to download maps, trying to help them get into the server if they need help. Refer a friend to the game (tell me if you need an extra cd key.) Help each other learn how to assist the team properly. If you are ever on my team you always hear me say "Smokes and Rockets." Many people have still not learned this, but that is the most effective way to neutralize a tank wave after you have been out maneuvered, and lost all your tanks.

Unfortunately, there have been events that have hastened the death of the game. This is truly the most accepting server in the history of CoD UO. Other servers alienate many different type of players for many reasons. I try my best to make it an environment for EVERYONE, and not just a small group of people with a sense of entitlement. I am in charge of the server, yet I do not even take my own needs into account. I have learned to like what most others like, and that is first priority for me. Let us work together to keep the game alive!

Maddog, you are a foreigner yourself, you speak a language besides english. Use this strength to teach players who may also speak your language the order of bases. Many players here speak many languages besides English. Help others to learn such a simple thing. Do not open certain bases on certain maps, and why. It is not a difficult concept. They do not even need to know the precise and exact order. Just the basic things! Let us not alienate players of other languages, let us help them!

I will be collecting players of different languages and hopefuly I can assemble a translation team!

Lets make this a world wide server, not a U.S. Server, and Maddog, you will no longer be a foreigner, you will be a native.

[Cape Ryan]

Feb 22, 2017 0:00:18 GMT -5 fric said:

Thank you all for your comments. The vast majority of votes have swung towards leaving it be the way it is, something that surprises me. Thank you maddog for you have given me another fantastic idea!

What noxius said is true; however, we can take a somewhat different aproach. The other day, there was a player who does not speak english hitting the 2 base on foy. The typical response I have seen to this is the same as always. "****** noob, stop hitting 2." "admin kick" ect... All it took for me to remedy the situation was to call his attention, explain to him in Spanish of the implications of opening the american base 2 is. Naturally, after he learned this, he did not attack the 2. I did not have to kick, nor smite, nor ban.

Ladies and gentleman, we are in a dying game. At this time, we should help people how to download maps, trying to help them get into the server if they need help. Refer a friend to the game (tell me if you need an extra cd key.) Help each other learn how to assist the team properly. If you are ever on my team you always hear me say "Smokes and Rockets." Many people have still not learned this, but that is the most effective way to neutralize a tank wave after you have been out maneuvered, and lost all your tanks.

Unfortunately, there have been events that have hastened the death of the game. This is truly the most accepting server in the history of CoD UO. Other servers alienate many different type of players for many reasons. I try my best to make it an environment for EVERYONE, and not just a small group of people with a sense of entitlement. I am in charge of the server, yet I do not even take my own needs into account. I have learned to like what most others like, and that is first priority for me. Let us work together to keep the game alive!

Maddog, you are a foreigner yourself, you speak a language besides english. Use this strength to teach players who may also speak your language the order of bases. Many players here speak many languages besides English. Help others to learn such a simple thing. Do not open certain bases on certain maps, and why. It is not a difficult concept. They do not even need to know the precise and exact order. Just the basic things! Let us not alienate players of other languages, let us help them!

I will be collecting players of different languages and hopefuly I can assemble a translation team!

Lets make this a world wide server, not a U.S. Server, and Maddog, you will no longer be a foreigner, you will be a native.

Sorry for reviving this post so many years later. But I've just love the way you rule your server, fric.



I've been playing at Historians for years. I was more usual player like 8 years ago. Now I have a full-time job and I've been 5 years with my girlfriend already. I'm from Spain, so english is not my main language. But, from time to time, I love to re-install CoD: UO and get back to Historians, just to have the fun, that it's always garanted in this server.



I may missed the point of this reply, but I just wanna highlight the love I feel for this server, and I'm so happy it's one-of-a-kind between all the others, that are just bots or zombie-mods based on.



I hope this game never dies, and 99% of this achievement it's thanks to this community.



See ya on the field, fellas! <3

[Pvt.Edwards]

While I understand and follow base order when I play. It’s not information readily available to new players as far as I can tell. I’ll admit I have a difficult time remembering the base orders for most maps.

I think in the end I prefer the wild card possibilities of “oh hey base two got hit first; how are we going to recover from this?!” It’s a challenge and brings variety to the game as opposed to the monotony of just doing the same thing over and over.

[Section8]

alright let me get my 2 bits in here, listen yes its annoying when some don't follow suit and follow base order! but...
I can see it as a kickable offense and there are a couple other things that you can get you kicked for as well that are questionable if were playing competitively 
,but were not! ,its a game! Have fun! enjoy the comradery  most come to play this game because of they enjoy it and new people coming in to play shouldn't be punished 
for not being experienced , and there are others who have different tactics. not everyone wants to play in a competitive manor, if you do! form a league! as said before 
it is old and dying game ,don't make it not fun by dictating how to play cause honestly if I have to play it like that ill go back to playing pong lol!

[shermanklump]

Some players will hit bunkers in what you call the wrong order, others will complain in game about it .......... then you see the same complainers that moaned, hitting in the wrong order in the next game, no one is perfect, its a game !
leave as is (my humble opinion),